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Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:31:00 -
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CCP: Reset everyone. All our SP. All our stats. Refund the Aurum we bought. Make us buy the Militia BPOs at the higher price. I don't care anymore.
GM's: Please go ahead and lock this thread before people start complaining/trolling/internet lawyering.
Just wanted to get a thread out here to express my opinion to reference to later. |
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:42:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Well, I was sick and tired of you thread about Scouts being too "feminine" I didn't complain. lolwut?
When did I ever say that? |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:05:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, don't think so OP. I worked hard for all the SP and stuff I have now, no way am I giving it up just so we can get our AUR to use again. If CCP resets us all again, I would likely stop playing. I've been reset enough times already, and am NOT going though it again.
I say people who want an AUR refund should get a complete character wipe, and those that don't can keep everything they have. End of debate. so, in other words, if you want to actually get the entire contents of the merc pack you purchased, you have to get reset. otherwise, CCP just gets to keep your money without rendering you the stuff you bought. Sounds like blackmail to me. Like Garret said, we're all tired of this debate. If CCP would just give a response to the questions we've been asking since January on this, the threads would stop. Hence the solution:
Reset everyone.
After all they did say if things we catastrophic.
At this point the complaining has reached that level.
Reset away CCP. |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:31:00 -
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Explain why not. |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:52:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I'm not grinding out anymore. I'm keeping my ****. Except it's not yours to begin with.
From the End User License Agreement: "PLEASE NOTE THAT THE VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED TO YOU UNDER THIS EULA IS A BETA VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE, AND THEREFORE:
- THE FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE IS STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND MAY DIFFER FROM THE BETA VERSION PROVIDED TO YOU;
- CCP RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHAGES TO THE BETA VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE IN ITS ABSOLUTE DISCRETION; AND
- ANY ITEMS, OBJECTS, CURRENCY, CHARACTER ATTRIBUTES, RANK, OR STATUS ATTAINED IN THIS BETA VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE POTENTIALLY MAY NOT BE CARRIED THROUGH TO THE FINAL VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE.
Because, beta right?
You are still just a tester. It isn't commercial release. |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:57:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:We need another thread on the Merc pack reset and how it will or won't affect casual players/hardcore players. Maybe we need one on how this would affect corps vs randoms too. someone get on this please we need more threads!
Please note:
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. This is a thread expressing my opinion so I can discuss with the community at large and would like to discuss my opinion. Normally I wouldn't mind trolling, derailling, and bacon discussions, but I prefer them to stay out of this thread specifically for SRS BZNS purposes. |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:01:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Not enough bacon in this thread... bacon! Please note:
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. This is a thread expressing my opinion so I can discuss with the community at large and would like to discuss my opinion. Normally I wouldn't mind trolling, derailling, and bacon discussions, but I prefer them to stay out of this thread specifically for SRS BZNS purposes. |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:13:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=598443#post598443
One more to be sure. What they say and what they do are 2 different things.
Yes CCP has said something and followed through by doing that something.
However, I believe most of the community can attest to CCP saying 1 thing and doing something else.
In some case, they may have NOT said something, and done that something anyways.
The bottom line is this:
Anything we have done to earn what we have is ENTIRELY UP TO CCP. Everything we have MAY NOT be carried over to commerical release. And WE HAVE NO RIGHT to retain anything from our characters.
Considering the "Uprising" in the community about the mercenary pack and creating a catastrophic mess,
a reset is the only solution. |
Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=598443#post598443
One more to be sure. What they say and what they do are 2 different things. Yes CCP has said something and followed through by doing that something. However, I believe most of the community can attest to CCP saying 1 thing and doing something else. In some case, they may have NOT said something, and done that something anyways. The bottom line is this: Anything we have done to earn what we have is ENTIRELY UP TO CCP. Everything we have MAY NOT be carried over to commerical release. And WE HAVE NO RIGHT to retain anything from our characters. Considering the "Uprising" in the community about the mercenary pack and creating a catastrophic mess, a reset is the only solution. Dude. Give it a rest. You are obviously avoiding the facts. The facts are:
- CCP Eterne said "We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile."
- CCP Eterne ALSO said "Just a note, we've said we won't reset skill points to 0 (without a HUGE GIANT CURRENTLY-UNFATHOMABLE reason). There might still conceivably be a time where we reset skill point allocation." (Granted, this was an earlier post.
- CCP Eterne finally had to sticky this and say "We have been getting a lot of questions about Skill Point resets lately. In order to help everyone find this information, here is CCP's official stance on resetting skill points.
We currently have no plans to reset your characters' skill points to a state where they are equivalent to a newly created character, barring something catastrophic."
- There are numerous threads talking about wanting a merc pack refund. Many of them have concerns, many want extra Aurum, many are threatening lawsuits. You can find them here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here (this one is references the DEV sticky), and here.
Maken Tosch, I've run with you before. I like you (no-homo) and you have inspired me to run a Nova Knive class in the next build with the impressive Diary you ran about becoming a ninja kniver (knifer?). I would love to give this a rest. I also voice the same voice that Paran Tadec in that I also don't want to have to grind everything again.
However, this community has complained. It has done so to the point where I believe CCP may reach for the big red button labeled "Catastrophic". While I'm sad to see this, I believe we have forced onto CCP the one and only solution they have left.
A reset.
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Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:35:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:Well, I was sick and tired of you thread about Scouts being too "feminine" I didn't complain. lolwut? When did I ever say that? I'm sorry, I just went full ****** and got you mixed up with someone else lol. My apologies. You just went full ******?
NEVER go full ******...
(It's no problem. Water under the bridge. ) |
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Kaze Eyrou
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Posted - 2013.04.15 00:47:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Honestly, I would vote for a rest now just to watch all those pubstars scream.
Seems like the best way to level the playing field before PC. Just run a wipe through, burn it all down and give us all 10 days to get our corps reformed and get to fighting.
Just make sure those of us who bought merc packs early get our couple of days head start. Oh, and our items bro. At this point I agree. Run a wipe, give us a couple days to reform, allow those who have merc packs to get a couple days head start (though I would also include anyone who bought Aurum as well. Debatable on Tank package or Starter pack, but I really don't want another debate right now...).
And yes, I would like to see the items we earned as gifts from the closed beta, the items we get from the merc pack, etc. (Exile, Skinweaves, Dragonfly, etc.) |
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